tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post2001398704244208745..comments2024-03-18T08:33:25.907-04:00Comments on Inkwell Inspirations: War of 1812 Heroine Laura SecordLisa Karon Richardsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02175430876079208723noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-26942442676479565542012-11-21T14:10:17.761-05:002012-11-21T14:10:17.761-05:00Eli Stone? That's the same guy? That was a coo...Eli Stone? That's the same guy? That was a cool show. I didn't get to see many episodes but I liked it.Suzie Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06296203324088418271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-52560533778244751912012-11-21T10:17:29.499-05:002012-11-21T10:17:29.499-05:00You're right, Anita. We do have a lot of histo...You're right, Anita. We do have a lot of history on our side of the continent. And I did learn more about Hudson and the explorers than I ever learned about The War of 1812.Suzie Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06296203324088418271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-64920316147616603472012-11-21T09:56:30.204-05:002012-11-21T09:56:30.204-05:00BTW Debra, or anyone else planning on visiting the...BTW Debra, or anyone else planning on visiting the Niagara area...<br /><br />I finally found a memorial to Betsy Doyle. There is one plaque at Fort Niagara commemorating the remarkable contribution she made to the War of 1812. <br /><br />I'll post the image and particulars when I post her story (unless someone else is planning to do it.)Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-59563952259537461732012-11-21T09:04:20.813-05:002012-11-21T09:04:20.813-05:00Thanks, Suzie, but don't beat yourself up beca...Thanks, Suzie, but don't beat yourself up because even Elaine, a Canadian, doesn't remember learning about Laura. Although our text books were mostly all printed in Toronto, when I moved to Manitoba in my junior high year, I realized the content was not the same. In Ontario I learned of daily life in Upper Canada, the War of 1812, the Revolutionary War, etc. In Manitoba, those were brief Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-13175616689688487912012-11-21T08:51:22.039-05:002012-11-21T08:51:22.039-05:00Yes, Debra. Betsy Doyle deserves to be applauded f...Yes, Debra. Betsy Doyle deserves to be applauded for her courage, loyalty, and bravery no matter which side she fought for. She did remarkable things during and after the war - perhaps not if she was a male, but she was a female who stepped up to the plate in a man's game. <br /><br />Even though Betsy hated the British enough to throw a red-hot cannonball in my face just because of my Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-60582029716665976192012-11-20T23:46:08.490-05:002012-11-20T23:46:08.490-05:00I enjoyed reading this, Anita. If I ever learned a...I enjoyed reading this, Anita. If I ever learned about Laura Secord, I don't remember. I do remember her name associated with chocolates, though. That's pretty pathetic since I love women's history so much. I'm disappointed in myself. My only excuse is that even though they're practically my neighbor, we were never taught much Canadian history. A shame, really. I'm gladSuzie Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06296203324088418271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-12382081729700606352012-11-20T22:25:20.566-05:002012-11-20T22:25:20.566-05:00I would have guess Dolley too. Hmmm. So i went lo... I would have guess Dolley too. Hmmm. So i went looking because I figured I must be drawing a huge blank...<br />come to find out I have never heard of that woman before. " A woman of Distinction" in NY state who carried cannon balls at Fort Niagara? named Betsy Doyle?<br /><br />Seriously. Never heard of her. In all my reading over the last year or so and being that I only lived an Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-66592649232338280902012-11-20T22:09:57.533-05:002012-11-20T22:09:57.533-05:00CJ, your guess about the American heroine... there...CJ, your guess about the American heroine... there very well could be one who developed a bakery, but that's not the one I'm thinking about. <br /><br />The only acclaim this heroine has received so far as I can find is being named, 'A Woman of Distinction in New York State'. <br /><br />Apparently, when the War of 1812 celebrations were announced, New York heritage officials Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-9834368337340980262012-11-20T21:04:22.839-05:002012-11-20T21:04:22.839-05:00Good question, CJ. I guess I never explained that....Good question, CJ. I guess I never explained that. <br /><br />When Thomas Ingersoll and his family arrived for the first time in the thriving, growing town of Queenston, he is said to have said, "I like it here...My land's up on the Thames and it is good, but we'll open a shop here at Queenston until we have the land cleared upcountry." (From the book, <i>The Canadians: Laura Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-63800222059028650662012-11-20T20:11:14.507-05:002012-11-20T20:11:14.507-05:00Me too, Elaine. One of the best books I've bou...Me too, Elaine. One of the best books I've bought is <i>The Canadian Book of the Road</i> by Reader's Digest. It shows the best sightseeing routes and gives info on all the historical spots, both well-known and obscure.<br /><br />I try to plan ahead, but even then, if I'm driving on a trip, I never leave home without it. :DAnita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-23209741878865520412012-11-20T18:55:10.653-05:002012-11-20T18:55:10.653-05:00Fun post, Anita. Any idea what the family did with...Fun post, Anita. Any idea what the family did with those 66,000 acres? (Just seems kind of strange that he had that much land -- and then ran a tavern.)<br /><br />I'm going to guess the American heroine is the one who has a bakery company named after her. And if I'm right, that's a bit ironic, huh? The Canadian heroine is now known for chocolate and the American heroine known for C.J. Chasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02026386802434435296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-25278191310471421282012-11-20T18:35:03.737-05:002012-11-20T18:35:03.737-05:00Unfortunately I don't remember a lot of what I...Unfortunately I don't remember a lot of what I was taught in history -- I know we studied Canadian History two or three times (Grades 5, 8 and 12 if I'm not mistaken). However, it wasn't until I started travelling across Canada and seeing some of these historic sites that I wished history had been more alive to me as a student instead of something to study, get a good grade on a testElaine Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-19022552551427900222012-11-20T18:06:53.282-05:002012-11-20T18:06:53.282-05:00Awh DebH, I'm smiling, I'm smiling. :)
Yo...Awh DebH, I'm smiling, I'm smiling. :)<br /><br />You have brought up one point I've been hoping someone would... I disagree that you - as an American - <i>should</i> know about Laura Secord, after all, if a Canadian did what she did, the T word would be flashing across my mind!<br /><br />However, there is one American woman who hated the British and she is a heroine of the same war.Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-91869321359683173112012-11-20T17:51:42.237-05:002012-11-20T17:51:42.237-05:00Debra, we now have 2500 people in Nelson's fam...Debra, we now have 2500 people in Nelson's family tree and I can attest that 1 out of every 100 of them have gone to live in the US. Some of those were Americans to begin with, but many were British who immigrated to Canada, stuck around for awhile, then moved on. <br /><br />Those who left Canada settled/died in the following states with the highest concentrations first:<br />- California<brAnita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-29352968193456812112012-11-20T17:44:31.707-05:002012-11-20T17:44:31.707-05:00i always love your history posts anita, i learn so...i always love your history posts anita, i learn so much. i love hearing history from a differing point of view. and, the Americans DID invade Canada - so you can't fault a woman for doing her part to protect her fellow countrymen.<br /><br />i'd guess the Americans would've felt her a traitor. No matter what, Laura was still a brave woman. It's too bad she didn't get better DebHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11685506948995225770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-40331221059002342002012-11-20T17:13:57.816-05:002012-11-20T17:13:57.816-05:00Hi Elaine, :)
As an Ontarioian ... Ontarion ... u...Hi Elaine, :)<br /><br />As an Ontarioian ... Ontarion ... umm... person born in Ontario... I learned about Laura Secord in our grade school Social Studies class. However, a few decades went by before I realized that she was actually from <i>my</i> Ontario. <br /><br />Yet I've only recently understood the courage it must've taken for Laura to make the trek as she did especially when she Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-82680011538674731202012-11-20T16:46:16.892-05:002012-11-20T16:46:16.892-05:00I just spent over an hour researching AGAIN today....I just spent over an hour researching AGAIN today. I think I might just understand the WHos and the WHEREs and the WHENs in this three year war by the time 1815 comes around. And,<br /> I have a the 1812 Niagara Region Bicentennial Map to send to Anita.<br /><br />There are so many fascinating stories inside it.<br />Learned today that James Fenimore Cooper was a sailor aboard the US Oneida Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-26059840544015638052012-11-20T16:24:44.868-05:002012-11-20T16:24:44.868-05:00In spite of the fact that I'm Canadian, I didn...In spite of the fact that I'm Canadian, I didn't know anything about Laura Secord (other than the delicious chocolates) until I visited the monument in the Niagara Peninsula many years ago. Amazing woman! And I learned more about her today too! Thanks Anita!Elaine Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-24711970712451161342012-11-20T13:29:58.306-05:002012-11-20T13:29:58.306-05:00Did they find her a traitor or an inspiration? No ...<i>Did they find her a traitor or an inspiration? No matter the politics, she was truly a woman with gumption.</i><br /><br />Susie, you're right on all 3 counts! I'll post about what the man who called her a traitor did to show his displeasure as well as the events leading up to it. Fascinating stuff. <br /><br />And I'm not an expert by a long shot - that's Debra's area. I Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-6501260064285175032012-11-20T13:23:55.229-05:002012-11-20T13:23:55.229-05:00Debra, the Draper genealogy is heavily centred aro...Debra, the Draper genealogy is heavily centred around York County and in particular, the area between York and Lake Simcoe. This is where Ethel lives, author of my blog's courtship letters.<br /><br />I'm fascinated by the number of Americans who first settled the area and broke the land. Nelson himself is a direct descendant of Joel Draper Sr, born in New York, and sibling to 5 others Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-3191267783835046322012-11-20T13:19:43.294-05:002012-11-20T13:19:43.294-05:00Huzzah!
I happen to own a wonderful video series ...Huzzah!<br /><br />I happen to own a wonderful video series on the War of 1812 that I bought in Canada. It's really the best I've seen. <br /><br />I found this for you all if you want to look at some of the things going on next year that I might attend.<br />http://celebrate1812.ca/page/a-regency-wonderland<br /><br />2013 is an important Jane Austen year -- and Canada is celebrating it Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-54455915319425023922012-11-20T12:51:45.665-05:002012-11-20T12:51:45.665-05:00Oh yeah, Debra, I agree wholeheartedly. Actually, ...Oh yeah, Debra, I agree wholeheartedly. Actually, many of us thank America for it, because until that point, Canada was a piece of land held by a multitude of nationalities with no sense of ownership. Of belonging. We felt the English and French fighting for our land and we were like pawns waiting for the winner. We were here, but we could have been anywhere.<br /><br />The War of 1812 instilled Anita Mae Draperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759232889762510956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-90692595169401818612012-11-20T12:38:35.910-05:002012-11-20T12:38:35.910-05:00Interesting post! I've heard of Laura Secord b...Interesting post! I've heard of Laura Secord but I never knew much about her. What a brave lady--she had fortitude, that's for sure. I love the pictures.<br /><br />Deb, I love what you said about the major losers in charge of the armies. That's definitely true of the Americans (I don't know enough about the Canadians) so it made me laugh. Ugh.<br /><br />You two are the experts Susanne Dietzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09710634601407161821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-15473743493882927112012-11-20T12:27:37.237-05:002012-11-20T12:27:37.237-05:00My current hero is right now today is forced to se...My current hero is right now today is forced to see where his priorities lie. In the area of the Niagara River and St. Lawrence River, trade and family ties made the lines a bit blurry for many. Especially when many of the Canadians had once been Americans whose families left during the Revolutionary War. <br /><br />At Fort Niagara, June 1812, the American officers were entertaining their Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502152359497137754.post-88725493311059792492012-11-20T12:20:30.607-05:002012-11-20T12:20:30.607-05:00Thankfully for all, the Canadians and Americans bo...Thankfully for all, the Canadians and Americans both had some major losers in charge of the armies. <br /><br />In the American's defense - small though it may be - The argument was with Britain. There were those in the US that thought Canadians would want to be free of the monarchy as well. Much of New England was against it the fight all along.<br /><br />Those most in favor were Debra E. Marvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853387871623424853noreply@blogger.com